Ahmadinejad's letter to Bush: Worse than we could imagine

05/10/2006

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"We increasingly see that people around the world are flocking towards a main focal point -- that is the Almighty God. Undoubtedly through faith in God and the teachings of the prophets, the people will conquer their problems. My question for you is: "Do you not want to join them?" Mr. President, whether we like it or not, the world is gravitating toward faith in the Almighty, and justice and the will of God will prevail over all things."

Actually I thought George Bush already believed that. Perhaps Ahmadinejad was trying to communicate with him on his own level.

Posted by Chris @ 05/10/2006 03:54 PM CST

The letter to Mr. Bush was 18 pages long. If all you find is what you commented on, then one assumes the rest of the letter is of value. Playing with words is becoming very popular in the world and Chris may have a point in his comment. The Iranian leader was clear in that he refered to jews, christians and muslims.
If these three peoples were to truly follow the real teachings of their respective religions, we would have a much better world.
Ami, I would like to here more of your opinion about the letter and keep in mind that Israel is and wants to remain a jewish state and a recent poll showed most Israeli's would like to get rid of the arabs.

Posted by Mike Jebara @ 05/13/2006 09:03 PM CST

Is the link to the letter a full translation? It doesn't look like 18 pages. Without rereading the translation it seems to me that the Iraninan president makes 3 points:
1) Bush claims to represent Christian religious ideals which are viewed positively by Ahmadinejad, who uses the phrase Peace Be Upon You, which Muslims use for Muhammad, to refer to Christ. He also uses the phrsae for Moses, which means that he is trying to present a message of unity of monotheistic religions. Maybe he is building up to show that Islam engulfs in it Christianity and Judaism, although he says very litttle about Islam.
2) Then follows a long list of things the US does which are supposedly contrary to said religious ideals.
3) And then the punchline which Ami quoted, religious government is a shared goal of himself and Bush as opposed to secularism. He seems to speak positively even of the idea he attributes to Bush of wanting to unify the world under religion. It seemed that his advisers told him that Bush is religious and he is trying to use it as an opening. It's actually funny. And it does read as a letter by a Chalif to a medieval Pope.

The free peoples are not all religious. ome are secular. If they were to follow the real teachings of their religions than we would be in deep trouble. The Muslims would have tried to conquer the world, the Christians to convert it, and the Jews would have enclosed themselves.

I think a majority pf Israelis (but not all) would be happier if the Arabs were gone. But a majority of Israelis did not ever vote for a party that supports getting rid of the Arabs (in Israel).

The Jewishness of Israel is similar to the Iranianess of Iran and the Arabness of the Arab countries, not their Islamism. Naturaly Israel wants to remain a Jewish state. Most countries want to remain whatever they are. If we are heading for a world without nation-states or nationalism, it is yet too early to tell. There are no real signs of such a process.

Posted by Micha @ 05/14/2006 02:26 AM CST

Is the link to the letter a full translation? It doesn't look like 18 pages. Without rereading the translation it seems to me that the Iraninan president makes 3 points:
1) Bush claims to represent Christian religious ideals which are viewed positively by Ahmadinejad, who uses the phrase Peace Be Upon You, which Muslims use for Muhammad, to refer to Christ. He also uses the phrsae for Moses, which means that he is trying to present a message of unity of monotheistic religions. Maybe he is building up to show that Islam engulfs in it Christianity and Judaism, although he says very litttle about Islam.
2) Then follows a long list of things the US does which are supposedly contrary to said religious ideals.
3) And then the punchline which Ami quoted, religious government is a shared goal of himself and Bush as opposed to secularism. He seems to speak positively even of the idea he attributes to Bush of wanting to unify the world under religion. It seemed that his advisers told him that Bush is religious and he is trying to use it as an opening. It's actually funny. And it does read as a letter by a Chalif to a medieval Pope.

The free peoples are not all religious. ome are secular. If they were to follow the real teachings of their religions than we would be in deep trouble. The Muslims would have tried to conquer the world, the Christians to convert it, and the Jews would have enclosed themselves.

I think a majority pf Israelis (but not all) would be happier if the Arabs were gone. But a majority of Israelis did not ever vote for a party that supports getting rid of the Arabs (in Israel).

The Jewishness of Israel is similar to the Iranianess of Iran and the Arabness of the Arab countries, not their Islamism. Naturaly Israel wants to remain a Jewish state. Most countries want to remain whatever they are. If we are heading for a world without nation-states or nationalism, it is yet too early to tell. There are no real signs of such a process.

Posted by Micha @ 05/14/2006 02:27 AM CST

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